May 23, 2009

 

Can America Borrow Now Like Japan Borrowed During the 1990s?

 

Public debt 2004

Country

Debt (% GDP)

Malawi

235.7

Lebanon

185.1

Japan

154.6

Jamaica

145.6

Zambia

133.6

Seychelles

129.3

Nicaragua

125.3

Serbia and Montenegro

123.2

Israel

108.6

Italy

106.4

Singapore

106.4

Sri Lanka

105.1

Belgium

102

Egypt

101.8

Greece

100.9

Saudi Arabia

94.6

Jordan

92.7

Syria

89

Moldova

88.4

Sudan

87

Cte d'Ivoire

82.5

Turkey

78.7

Canada

77

Philippines

77

Morocco

76.2

Panama

73.3

Indonesia

72.9

Pakistan

72.7

Qatar

72.7

Papua New Guinea

72.4

Croatia

69.1

France

68.8

Austria

67.6

Argentina

65.7

Vietnam

64.3

Germany

64.2

Kenya

62.9

Spain

62.7

United States

62.4

 

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/List-of-government-debt

 

 

Your post reminded me of how different Japan seems today than when I was going to school in Tokyo in 1986. In 1986, the bubble was just getting underway. It seems hard to believe when you go to Japan today, but in the late 80s the level of conspicuous spending was amazing. Business men would talk about spending thousands of dollars a plate for a dinner. There would be drinks which contained actual flakes of gold. Books like “Japan as Number One” were best sellers. There were all kinds of predictions about how Japan would soon replace the US as the world's largest economy, and how the 21st Century would be the Japanese Century. In contrast to when I first went to Japan in 1978, there seemed to be a lot of arrogance in the air. Of course we all know now that this was a classic asset bubble (both stock and real estate), which ended very badly. Today, Japan feels much more like it did when I first went to Japan in 1978.

 

In the US over the last two decades, I think we have seen many of these same symptoms, as the US economy went through its two bubbles (dot.com and housing). In fact, I was kidding with a class here in Utah the other day that maybe we need to invent and arrogance meter. It is often said that it is impossible to tell that an economy is really in a bubble until after the fact. But, I said maybe an arrogance meter would be the best way to tell that an asset bubble is developing.

 

You point out one important difference between the economies, which is that throughout this period the Japanese savings rate has been much higher than the US savings rate. Trying to escape the post bubble recession, that has never really left Japan, the Japanese government has spent and spent and spent, running up huge levels of debt. http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/List-of-government-debt As you can see in 2004, Japan had the third highest government debt level in the world at 154% of GDP (following Malawi and Lebanon). The US was at 62% of GDP in 2004. However, as the US is now rapidly expanding its debt level, consider the difference in savings rates. With a high savings rate Japan was in a much better position to sustain such borrowing without igniting high levels of inflation (in fact Japan was trying to stop deflation). In contrast, the low US savings rate means that the US cannot sustain such high debt levels without borrowing actual savings from other countries. This makes the US much more vulnerable to a situation in which other countries refuse lend. If the US keeps borrowing by simply monetizing the debt (having the Federal Reserve simply create new money) at some point the US will trigger very high inflation.